As soon as it was announced that Vancouver’s own Bishops
Green had been added to the Pennywise show in Berlin I knew I was going to
attend, I didn’t waste any time and
contacted them to set up an interview.
Fast forward to the day of the show. We had arranged
to meet at CoreTex, the renowned record store in Kreuzberg. After the formal and necessary introductions, vocalist Greg, drummer Evan, tour photographer
Christian and
yours truly, took advantage of the sunny weather and took off
to find a nice place where we could talk uninterrupted. Pizza and beers was set
on the table and the interview began.
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Warning: madness will ensue.
Obviously, the first question I asked concerned their
unusual band name. Greg explained how he saw the name at a House Committee in
Vancouver, thought it was catchy and that it would make a great band name. Evan
adds that the band does enjoy the confusion that surrounds it –still they don’t
bother to correct people’s assumptions.
The band has seen their popularity rise in
Europe over the past couple of years. Greg attributes the fact to them being
“different than your average hardcore band”, with their melodies and hooky
catches. For Evan, it’s the combination of that and the things they sing about.
“When our EP first came out, we were singing about
austerity measures and things like this, and at the time it was really
affecting people in Spain, in Greece, and all over Europe, and I think it
hooked people. We were reading the news or watching what was going on around
the world, and started to write songs and sing about it, so a lot of things
that we write about are things we observe around the world and we managed to
bring that together. I think it struck a note with people, especially in
Europe”.
This is not a time for people to become protectionists, it’s a time for people to come together.To this end, they try to keep their music “simple and accessible to people”. Inspiration is provided by the things they observe. Musically, Greg comes up with a melody, and they build it from there. “The rhythm section forms structure around the song, around [his] melody, and then the guitars provide texture. Or ambience, in a sense”. To all that, passion is a key component. What is their view on that? For Greg, it’s deep and involves energy, the lyrics and what they see going around. Evan takes it one step further as he employs the word ‘authenticity’. “Because you're passionate about the things that you believe in and, to be truly passionate about something, to deeply believe in it, it has to be authentic.”
The
conversation is abruptly interrupted by Greg getting stung by a wasp. “It's a
good thing I'm not allergic!”, exclaims the vocalist, while Evan makes fun of
him complaining, only to receive a few playful punches on the shoulder. “We're
all cranky, we're almost done with the tour”, explains Greg. “We only have six
shows left and we're exhausted”. “We can do about 30 shows in a row and then
we're done, we need a week off or something”, continues Evan.
Maybe one of the highlights of their tour was
when they played the Rebellion Festivals in the UK. The band’s reception is
almost overwhelming and the overall experience is very humbling, as they’ve
gone “from small bars to festivals where there’s over 2000 people watching our
set”. Their preference, however, still lies in the smaller and more intimate
shows, where people are singing along and Greg can deliberately give them the
microphone and interact with the crowd.
As we continue to talk about intimate shows and the importance of doing things we love, another wasp begins to take interest in our table. Greg begins to swat in the air… Evan barks at Greg “try not to make a huge mess… I can picture the wasp buzzing around Greg, you [Greg] swatting that beer glass, beer going all over Christian, Christian springing around to avoid being soaked in beer, his camera hitting her [E.C.] in the head… and then the interview's over”. As we’re all laughing, Greg states matter-of-factly that “that’s actually when the interview starts”. Good point.
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As we continue to talk about intimate shows and the importance of doing things we love, another wasp begins to take interest in our table. Greg begins to swat in the air… Evan barks at Greg “try not to make a huge mess… I can picture the wasp buzzing around Greg, you [Greg] swatting that beer glass, beer going all over Christian, Christian springing around to avoid being soaked in beer, his camera hitting her [E.C.] in the head… and then the interview's over”. As we’re all laughing, Greg states matter-of-factly that “that’s actually when the interview starts”. Good point.
Following
the spirit of the chat before that last incident, I have to ask. Punk started
out as a frustration with the status quo and it grew to be a multi-faceted
social movement. If history does repeat itself, and if punk does happen in
waves, do they think that its latest revival can cave a similar revolutionary
impact? Evan is bold with his reply. “Two years ago we got interviewed by
Maximum Rock N Roll in San Francisco and we said ‘This is a great time for punk
rock because there’s so much fucked up shit going on’. You look at the US and
what’s happening now and that’s frightening, it’s like watching a trainwreck…
For me, because of our age, we weren’t at the inception of punk but we caught
it when we were younger. People are different now, they behave differently.
Social media makes a difference so [it] might have a similar effect but I think
it will be manifested in a very different way. It’s very instant now. It seems
people are overwhelmed because they’re getting bombarded with so much stuff and
maybe they’ll turn to music as a way to deal with all that. It’s important to
talk about these things, it’s important, the dialogue and the discussion;
that’s how you get creative and find solutions to problems… This is not a time
for people to become protectionists, it’s a time for people to come together. When you box everybody up, that’s
when crazy stuff happens. These are frightening times…”.
That’s
when I opted to switch to lighter questions, starting with the basics; the duo
casting themselves and the rest of the band as superheroes. “Wonder Woman!”,
exclaims Greg in a sassy voice. Time to come up with something about the other
guys. “Mikey would be very special”, states the vocalist. “He’d have a gift of
happiness; he’d infuse happy because he’s got that nice smile… Super Mikey.
That’s what he’d be. Adam? Super Complainer! No, I’m joking. He’s a very lovely
person”. Evan chimes in. “He wastes a lot of water when he brushes his teeth,
so I think he’d be Aqua-man. About me? I don’t know. I would feel uncomfortable
naming me as a super hero”. Enter Christian with a brilliant suggestion; Evan
could be Batman and lead the Justice League –plus he defeated Superman. Turns
out the drummer is also fond of Wolverine so he proposes a
combination of the two. Christian and myself then proceed to explain that you
can’t mix and match characters from the DC and Marvel Universes; not without
massive heart attacks in both fandoms, anyway. He finally settles for Batman
but detects a small problem; he’s not rich so he’d had to live in a barn and
drive a Chevette. Being a good friend, Greg is quick to dub him “Barn Owl”. And
a new superhero is born.
Moving on to another standard question; the guys’
first reaction if they woke up in the opposite gender’s body. Again, Greg is
the first one to reply that “[he’d] need a tit job!”. And someone to show him
how to use his “down town mix up”. As we continue laughing, I proceed to ask what
are the 3 items they’d grab if their house was on fire. They both give serious
answers, as they’d snatch fresh underwear and socks, and some family heirlooms.
The drummer is right to remark that I’m looking for weird answers but they’re
being dead honest. Christian, however, points out how neither of them mentioned
waking up their partners, to which they both retort that “of course [they]
would take any other person in the house with them”. Out of curiosity I ask
Christian the same question, to which he responds that he’d just take that
person, an animal and his camera.
After all that, it was only natural for me to ask if they’ve ever been caught doing something they shouldn’t be doing. They disagree a lot whether there’s a story appropriate (or not embarrassing) enough to share until Greg speaks up. “I smoked in a library once. I went, got a book, I lit up a smoke, they said ‘Sir, you can’t smoke in a library’. I blew smoke rings at the librarian; ‘Yes, I can!’. And then I got kicked out. That was at the Vancouver Public Library. That was very naughty of me!”.
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After all that, it was only natural for me to ask if they’ve ever been caught doing something they shouldn’t be doing. They disagree a lot whether there’s a story appropriate (or not embarrassing) enough to share until Greg speaks up. “I smoked in a library once. I went, got a book, I lit up a smoke, they said ‘Sir, you can’t smoke in a library’. I blew smoke rings at the librarian; ‘Yes, I can!’. And then I got kicked out. That was at the Vancouver Public Library. That was very naughty of me!”.
However,
Evan can’t come up with a satisfying answer and seems frustrated that he didn’t
fully answer the super hero question either, so the topic inevitably re-emerges
with an unexpected turn. The only time I didn’t ask about movies that made
people cry, these guys admitted that they teared up while being hungover during
a scene in Spiderman. Dammit. As we
are slowly reaching the end, I’m about to make them feel awkward with the next
question. “Fuck, marry and kill in the band”. A series of “ahhs” and “uuhms”
follows as Evan declares that he would do all three to Alex, their tour
manager. “It would be a polygamous thing where we all marry him, and we all fuck
him and we all kill him.”
At
this point, Adam and Mikey join us so we ask them that same question. Adam
refuses to answer and walks away whilst Mikey claims he’d just kill Evan. The
final question is addressed to the entire band; if they died that moment, what
song would they want to play at the funeral? Greg starts singing “I just died
in your arms tonight…” while the other guys throw ideas on the table, only to
switch to “This is the day your life will surely change…”. As someone suggests
Black Sabbath’s “The Wizard”, they all start singing the riff; Mikey says he would
either go with that or “Wall Of Sleep”. As for Evan, Slayer’s “Reign In Blood”
would be convenient.I got to spend a few more hours around these guys until they called it a night and I can definitely confirm this was one of my best
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